‘If They Did It’ – A Demo Map on a Theory

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When confronted by History Channel researcher Marisa Kagan in 2010, Geestman tried telling her he hardly knew Kenny and thought he was a dishwasher. She sent him 20 photos of the men together spanning a 20-year period. He changed his story after that and agreed to come on the Brad Meltzer’s Decoded show.

While Flight 305 was on the ground at SeaTac Airport, hijacker ‘D.B. Cooper’ requested that the airstairs be left DOWN on takeoff. This was refused on the grounds of safety. The stairs would drag on the tarmac and possibly cause the jet to crash before it could even leave the ground. Here at Adventure Books of Seattle, we’ve always wondered WHY the hijacker wanted them left down. Seemed a bit premature, since he told everyone he wanted to go to Mexico, and there was going to be a refueling stop in Reno, NV along the way. The only good answers we could think of were that the hijacker didn’t plan to stay aboard the aircraft very long, and had no intention of trying for Mexico. And that he had a plan involving someone on the ground a little closer to home. The idea that he would try jumping from a jet at night without a ride home seems unlikely, unless he was planning to just stick his thumb out while packing a bank bag full of cash.

And…if Cooper had help somewhere on the ground…that both men would know where that help was waiting. And that this help would probably come via a payphone, which were virtually everywhere back in 1971. 

Now we do know a couple of facts regarding Bernie Geestman from our investigation, the man we allege was Kenny Christiansen’s guy on the ground. For example, we know Geestman bought an Airstream trailer approximately six weeks prior to the hijacking, and instead of bringing it home to Bonney Lake, he parked it down at his shop property in Oakville, WA. We also know he took the station wagon he used to haul the trailer back to Bonney Lake. (And that his wife Margie did serious bitching about him leaving the trailer in Oakville unattended. He told her ‘Don’t worry about it’.) We also know Mr. Geestman left Bonney Lake in the station wagon a day or two PRIOR to the hijacking. And since he told his wife he was going camping in his Airstream (over the Thanksgiving holiday no less) that he ended up at Oakville, at least initially. She did some serious bitching about that, too…reminding him that they were supposed to attend Thanksgiving dinner at Helen Jones’ place down in Sumner, WA that year. As they had the previous year, and DID do the year AFTER the hijacking. Coincidentally, so did Kenny Christiansen, although the year of the hijacking, he told several people he was planning to take a free NWA flight back to Minnesota to do the family thing for Thanksgiving.
(His family said he never did.)

Witness Helen Jones stated that Kenny Christiansen told her a few weeks after the hijacking that the reason he hadn’t attended Thanksgiving dinner at her house, as he usually did, was because he was with Geestman. (He didn’t give details, of course.) She ran into him at the Sumner Laundromat, she said in her interview. Jones also noted how angry Mrs. Geestman was when SHE turned up at Jones’ place for Thanksgiving and had to tell Jones that her husband skipped the dinner to go camping over the holiday week.

So…we can place these men together in Oakville before the hijacking.
We HAVE done this.

Okay, let’s say for the sake of argument these guys pulled it off. We don’t know for sure, we will just theorize here. We think they stayed at the trailer in Oakville overnight, made last-minute plans (probably over a bourbon and a road map of Washington State) and Kenny told Geestman where he would try to jump. And that spot was probably NOT down by Ariel, Amboy, or Woodland, but further north. Maybe within the area shown by the circle on the map below. That area, especially back in 1971, was not heavily populated. A lot of empty space, lightly -traveled country roads, and the landing zones mostly not too dangerous. The next morning, Geestman drops Kenny Christiansen off at the Portland Airport and returns to the shop property in Oakville, which may even have had a phone installed.

But not everything went according to plan. For example, when the ground folk at SeaTac said ‘No way’ to leaving the airstairs down. Now, the door has to be opened in flight, and that took a bit of time with the jet cruising along at three miles a minute. And the hijacker had to take time to secure the money bag and put on the parachute. By the time Cooper was ready to jump, the jet was far south (we think) of the jumpzone he had originally planned, and that’s why he ended up down there.

It’s just a theory, but IF Christiansen was really Cooper, and Geestman his buddy on the ground, we think the map shown below is a good rendition of what really happened that night. And then a long walk out of the woods to a payphone. 

Geestman on the telephone with Kenny a day or two later:
“You’re WHERE?”
Kenny tells him where he is.
“Oh, crap. How the hell did you end up clear down there? Okay. I’ll be there in about 90 minutes. You’ll have to tell me what happened…”

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Where Did D.B. Cooper Get the Tie He Left Behind on the Plane? Maybe HERE.

Cooper was careful to take back any notes and dispose of certain evidence before he jumped from the Boeing 727 on the evening of November 24, 1971. But he discarded a JC Penney tie on the back of his seat. If NWA purser and former paratrooper Ken Christiansen was Cooper, we think we know where he got it. Where? At the JC Penneys in downtown Auburn, WA. He would have gone right past it on his way to work at the SeaTac Airport. The only other nearby Penneys in 1971 was miles SOUTH of his apartment. His alleged accomplice Bernie Geestman, who lived in nearby Bonney Lake, also worked up north and would have taken the same route. We think that either Kenny was provided the tie by Geestman, or that Kenny bought it himself. But that in either case, the tie originated at the Auburn Penneys.

See the attached picture for details.TheTieAndWhy

DB Cooper/Ken Christiansen Podcast Goes On, Despite 1,398 Hack Attempts

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Update: Podcast (an interview of yours truly by the guys at Mysterious Topics) was recorded today for later release, and ran on for nearly two hours via Skype.

And get this: Starting fifteen minutes BEFORE I signed into Skype…someone out there in Internet Land tried to lay some Trojan Horses on my computer. At least four attempts were made intially, then a total of 1398 more attempts while we were doing the podcast. All were blocked/quarantined by our security programs and then deleted. A full scan afterward was clean.

I can’t prove it of course, but it seems awfully coincidental that no attempts were made to hack us for many months, and then suddenly…after I give the time and date of the upcoming podcast out on the internet…someone tries to Trojan Horse us just a few minutes before we go live…and continues their attempts over a thousand times all through the program. (There is also a video of this podcast that was done from my end, and on the computer screen you can actually see the security warnings popping up one after another, all during the podcast) After I finished the podcast, I was able to go my security log and there were a whopping 1,398 Trojan Horse attempts made in an approximately two hour period. Most likely, it was an automatic program that was designed to ‘keep trying’ until results were obtained.

Whoa, Nellie…that’s a lot of horses.

And if you’re thinking it was because I was on Skype, think again. It started BEFORE I even signed in to Skype. Skype wasn’t even turned on when it started, so it wasn’t a Skype thing.

Nice try, whomever you are. We do have rather sophisticated security in place for our office computers though. And regular backups to external drives, as well as using an outside backup service. We do this because we have a ton of images and book files on our machines. Even if a hacker managed to get through our security, we would be fully restored in short order. You have to do that sort of thing these days.

Anyway, the podcast at Mysterious Topics (link below) will be available between November 1 and November 5. The video version will be uploaded to our YouTube channel at the same time.

http://www.mysterioustopics.com/

The Big Video: 90-minute presentation from YouTube on Cooper Suspect Ken Christiansen

Filmed in the Olympic Mountains back in June 2015, this video presents an extensive evidence package showing that former paratrooper and NWA employee Kenny Christiansen may have hijacked his own airline in November 1971 for $200,000 in cash. That amount is equivelent to just over a million bucks today.